Patrizierforum

Hi, I was actually involved in the Ascaron community forums when Patrician III was first released internationally and helped refine the translation, and I thought it would be fun to make a gamefaqs FAQ for the game in English now that the game has been rereleased at GOG.com.

My corny spreadsheets on Production costs may still be circulating...

Anyway, I'm trying to figure out the formulas for how much a city will consume.

I think the following are the salient variables:

1) Size of the three economic classes in the town.
2) Whether the needs for a given product have been filled recently.
3) The season. (It seems people want more timber in the winter?)
4) The location. (Furs and timber are more needed further north?)

Obviously, if only 1 and 2 are important then it's a matter of looking at 3 or more cities of differing sizes that have no supply problems at all and then extrapolating the constants for each product per unit of population for each class via the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra.

For that it would to have a nice contest save with a fully supplied towns with populations of 10k, 20k and 30k. If anyone knows anything about calcing towns demand, I'd love to hear about it!

Thanks.

AHA!

OK, that looks to be quantity of Goods per thousand in that there table. (Richies eat bricks? I never knew that...)

So the last question is, in a well behaved city will the total population have each of the 3 classes in equal proportion? Also Winter for consumption is December January and February, Just like for the agricultural goods, right?

Interesting side note, but Patrician is a Keynesian nightmare waiting to happen if the numbers I have above check out.

Basically, for a poor family of 4 to have all of its needs met costs it ~55 per week. If however Daddy is working as a Pitch squeezer or a Brickmaker or a Warehouse guard, His income is 7 per week, 6.3 presumably after the head tax. The same is true of many other professions, Grain farmers only come home with 16.33 before taxes, and only the big ticket item professions like Furmakers, Blacksmiths, Vintners and so on could hope to be middle class even with a two income household. This is especially true since I'm just assuming that all the variable production costs are wages, which seems a bit odd.

In other words aggregate demand is happening in the game even though nobody can possibly be producing enough income to support that demand, an you are taking out far more gol from the town than you are putting in. Granted, obviously the rich aren't working for you, women an chilren might be working in o jobs too, but the thing should be collapsing since the poor don't have the money to buy what you produce...

Reaganomics would be decreasing the Land Taxes.

But even with all the girls hanging out with the sailors, there just ain't enough money going into the towns. Presumably craftsmen sell things to the contryside...

ANYWAY.

Does anyone know if in a healthy town the various classes settle into a fixed proportion? Luebeck is something like 2:4:7 in my game right now for Rich:Middle: Poor, whereas other towns of the same size seem more bottom heavy.